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FREEZONE BIBLE ASSOCIATION TECH POST

9th ACC - THE SOLUTION TO ENTRAPMENT CASSETTES 4/35

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9TH ACC CONTENTS

December 1954 to January 1955 in Phoenix, Arizona.

Based on the solution to entrappment cassette version.

F# = File number (** = not available)
O# = Original Number (according to the master list posted by Pilot)
REN = As renumbered in the Solution to Entrappment cassettes

F# O#  REN  DATE  TITLE

01  1   1  Dec  6 Introduction to 9th ACC: Havingness
02  2   2  Dec  7 The Essence of Auditing, Know to Mystery Scale
03  3   3  Dec  8 Rundown on Six Basics
04  4   4  Dec  9 Communication Formula
05  5   5  Dec 10 The Practice of Dianetics and Scientology
06  6   6  Dec 13 Conduct of the Auditor
07  7   7  Dec 14 Mechanics of Communication
08  8   8  Dec 15 Havingness
09  9   9  Dec 16 Pan-determinism and One-way Flows
10  9A 10  Dec 17 Hist. & Dev. of Processes: Games & Limitations in Games
11  9B 10A Dec 17 History and Development of Processes: Q&A Period
12 10  11  Dec 20 Games (Fighting)
13 11  12  Dec 21 Anatomy of Games -- Part I
14 11A 12A Dec 21 Anatomy of Games -- Part II
15 12  13  Dec 22 One-way Flows in Processing
16 12A 13A Dec 22 One-way Flows in Processing: Question and Answer Period
17 13  14  Dec 23 Havingness and Communication Formulas
** 13A --  Dec 23 After Lecture Comments   
18 14  15  Dec 24 Pan-determinism
19 14A 15A Dec 24 Pan-determinism: Question and Answer Period
20 15  16  Dec 27 Training New People
** 15A --  Dec 27 Curiosa from Dianetics 55!
21 16  17  Jan  3 Auditing Requirements, Differences
22 16A 18  Jan  4 Time
** 16AA -  Jan  4 Q&A Period
23 17  19  Jan  5 Auditing at Optimum
24 18  20  Jan  6 Exteriorization
25 19  21  Jan  7 Elementary Material: Know to Mystery Scale
26 20  22  Jan 10 Education: Goals in Society -- Adult Education
27 21  23  Jan 11 Fundamentals of Auditing
** 21A --  Jan 11 Auditors' Conference
28 22  24  Jan 12 Definitions: Glossary of Terms -- Part I
29 23  25  Jan 13 Definitions: Glossary of Terms -- Part II
30 24  26  Jan 14 Definitions: Glossary of Terms -- Part III
31 25  27  Jan 17 Auditing Demonstration: Six Basics in Action
** 25A --  Jan 17 Auditors' Conference
32 26  28  Jan 18 Auditing Demonstration: Spotting Spots
** 26A --  Jan 18 Auditors' Conference
33 27  29  Jan 19 Auditing Demonstration: Exteriorization
34 28  30  Jan 20 Background Music to Living
35 29  31  Jan 21 Axioms: Laws of Consideration -- What an Axiom Is

Note that 6 of the 9 discussion periods (Q&A periods, Auditors'
Conferences, etc.) were omitted from the cassettes, leaving us
with only 35 files instead of the 41 that were recorded.  It is
also possible that material was edited out of the lectures which
are available.  If anyone has a set of the original reels, please
post any missing material.

========================

9ACC file 4/35

9th ACC - 4: COMMUNICATION FORMULA

Transcript of Lecture by L. Ron Hubbard 9ACC04   -   
5412C09 4th of 35 talks to students on the 9th Advanced
Clinical Course between 6 December 1954 and January 21 1955

COMMUNICATION FORMULA

A lecture given on 9 December 1954


We went into yesterday the mechanics of communication
rather thoroughly. Give you a very, very fast rundown on
this: You've got cause distanc effect, and then the
effect-point turns around and becomes cause-point and then
you get distance and the original cause is now effect
again. And this communication back and forth across that
distance is nonaberrative. No real aberration would ever
occur if you had a two-way communication.
Cause-distance-effect, the effect reversing to become
cause-distance, and the original cause becoming
effect. Now, if we had that occur, even though the
duplication was rather poor, we still wouldn't have
anything aberrative.

When we have cause-distance-effect wait with expectancy of
the other-way flow, we got trouble. And that trouble is
very widely and adequately described in Dianetics: The
Modern Science of Mental Health, AP&A, Self Analysis,
Science of Survival, 16-G, 24-G, we're just talking about
that trouble, that's all the trouble we're talking about,
all the way along the line, is simply this cause-distance
-effect-wait.

The formula of aberration, then, is "cause-distance-effect,
wait, try to get an answer from someplace else." And in
expecting an answer from the original target, we then get a
situation whereby the individual becomes impatient for that
answer. And having become impatient for the answer is going
to get an answer from somewhere and so introduces a via
into the communication line. Cause-distance-effect, he
doesn't get the answer from what he expected to get it from
and so we have trouble.

All right. Now, let's take this as it applies to an engram
and we discover that when you said to Mr. Blow, "How do you
feel?" the odd part of it is that he's already unconscious,
you know, and the odd part of it is he has been
cause-distance-effect along the line for so long that he can
assume unconsciousness. And he will get an answer. Oh yes,
he will get an answer against which he isn't braced.

"How do you feel?" is not an originating communication as
far as he is concerned, it is some sort of an answer. Now,
let's get this very clearly. It doesn't matter whether you
have question marks, exclamation points, semicolons or
dashes in the communication system. Remember that meaning
has minimal action here. Sigrnficance, meaning; it doesn't
matter much what's on this communication line. It is the
weight, size, velocity factors which are the most
interesting. All right, we have cause-distance-effect. Now,
he said, "Cause," across a distance. And he waited, and he
waited; never got an answer. And then one day you come
along and give him an answer. Remember he's waiting for an
answer from someplace else. What do you mean, "an answer"?
Somebody interested in him, somebody concerned with him,
somebody to give him some attention, somebody to notice
him, anything like that, you see. So if you came up to him
while he was in a very anaten state, you're liable to hook
into almost any old waiting line. Now, this individual has
been hit, hasn't he? He has really received an answer of
one kind or another, hasn't he? You've spoken to him and
he's still receiving an answer, isn't he? And he will
confuse your answer with the velocity of the answer he has
received. Let us say that he has been knocked down by a cop
and he was in a more law-abiding society and was knocked
down by a cop. And as we go across the line, you might say,
as the cop went across the line and hit this fellow, he
gave him an answer. You get the idea, it has no
significance. We're merely getting a heavy particle reply, see.

All right, he's in a state of reply, see, "I've got a reply
at last. For God sakes I know I've got a reply." See? Bang,
you know, "What do you know, somebody answered!" He's
convinced of it, he knows somebody answered. And you come
along and you compound the felony by simply saying to him,
"How do you feel?" and this is all part of the answer and
he's got it and he is gripping it to his bosom. And he is
holding this facsimile in upon him. So he holds "How do you
feel" in upon him. Then somebody else says to him "How do
you feel?" and this becomes part of the answer. And
somebody else says "How do you feel?" later on, and that
becomes part of this same answer. And it's all part of this
same answer.

You see, a thetan, actually, cannot receive an effect. So
if he starts handing out lots of effects (he thinks), if
he starts handing out a tremendous number - . You see, he can
think he can receive an effect. He can make up his mind
that he can receive an effect. But if he starts thinking in
terms of just this: "Look at that horrible effect I have
delivered," or "Look at that effect I have delivered," you
see - ah-ah-ah-ah - he can't receive one. Now, there is the
little puzzle on the whole track.

We have consideration only. This is all we have is
consideration, you see. So somebody put a mock-up up and he
considered this mock-up was real. You know, this mock-up
was alive. It wasn't another life form or energy, space,
idea production unit he was addressing - which itself could
not receive an effect, you see. He was addressing a form
and it was alive. You get the idea? All right.

So he thinks he has achieved an effect. He considers that
he has because he wanted to. All right, he thinks he's
achieved an effect. You see this? He hasn't really but he
thinks he has. So this makes him feel like he ought to have
one now. See, we ought to have a two-way communication
involved here. And this again is a consideration.

If you can get enough people to repent, repent, repent, and
believe they are all sinful, and ask forgiveness, and et
cetera, yap-yap, you see, if we - if we can run this in on
somebody, he will recognize that he should have an effect.
You get that? He should have punishment. He should have an
effect his way. Ah, all they do is come along and get him
to make up his mind you see, that he actually has created
some effects. And now he ought to have one, or he's going
to get one, or Yahweh or somebody, who lives in a trunk
with a leopard skin - that by the way is the Christian God.

I'm sorry to have to interject that statement but I'm
always struck by this tremendous thing here of all of
these - of all of these poor people going around not knowing
anything about the anatomy of their own religion.

Ah, being rather - being rather interested in and somewhat
practiced in the investigation of barbaric customs in minor
societies here and there around the world, and having been
more or less tuned up and alerted very early in my life, it
is rather hard for me to assume a "part of" attitude toward
my own society, you see? I was better educated in looking
at other societies before I started living in this one.

And naturally, I come back and take a look at this one and
it becomes very amusing, because you look at it along the
same standards any anthropologist or ethnologist applies.
You see we re a barbaric society; you see some of the
darnedest things. We see, for instance, a revolt took place
in the New Testament against the Old Testament, and now we
publish both books in the same volume. See, the Old
Testament was a red, raw revolt against the pardon - New
Testament was a red, raw revolt against the Old Testament,
and here we - same order of magnitude. Boy, if you want
something to fight itself, there certainly is a symbol.

And then although a lot of people will say carelessly
"Well, God is everywhere," remember that this was an idea
which was introduced rather latterly in Christian religion.
The God of which they speak, of whom they speak
continually, is Yahweh. Lord knows how it's pronounced
because it is so secret that nobody really is supposed to
be able to pronounce it, so they omitted all of the vowels
in the word. And they spell it only with its consonants.
So, Lord knows how this word is to be pronounced. But more
agreed upon pronunciation amongst scholars so they can talk
about it is "Yahweh." An- and this is the Christian God. But
he lives in a trunk with a leopard skin. That's right,
that's - that is the full story on it. And we get ourselves
- you wonder where I'm going with this, and why I'm
suddenly talking to you about this, you'll see this in a
minute. I'll fool you. I'll put a method here in our madness.

This fellow, you see, gets talked to on the basis, and
talks to other people on the basis, that they really ought
to have an effect because there's some compensating, or
some retaliatory force necessary to keep the universe
nicely and neatly in balance, you see? Of course, sooner or
later, they're going to move Yahweh out of a trunk and put
him in all space. Because what do you never get an effect
from? What do you never get an effect from? - space.

There's no piece of space, no piece of space has ever smote
you. It couldn't. And so they start putting demons and
devils in this space. But what's very interesting? This is
based upon the absolute truth of the matter. "Awareness of
awareness units" can locate themselves utterly unseen in
space. So we have this high truth. Now we go down to the
fact that the fellow can never receive a motivator, you
might say, from space. He can never receive a two-way
communication from space, directly, he believes. Or, he
himself has been in space delivering almost as space -
quite invisible - delivering effects at people or things or
other spaces, delivering an effect, you see? An effect, an
effect, an effect, an effect. He can't exteriorize out of this
space all of a sudden.

Why can't he exteriorize? Because he's waiting for the
answer out of the space, see? Let's say you knew an
awareness of awareness unit by the name of Joe. Let's bring
this down to common basics here. There isn't a single
human being, or actually even finally a dog or a cat or a
cockroach, that cannot inhabit space totally invisibly. Not
any single life form anywhere in this universe is exempt
from being an invisible cause point trying to create an
effect in space, you see? No form is.

All right. They keep doing this, they keep doing this, and
then they wonder how they get stuck in this universe.
Well, how do they get stuck in this universe? They keep
waiting for an answer. You know the only way you'd get
stuck would be to wait around, wouldn't it? All right,
supposing you start waiting around until it became
obsessive, huh? Well, you'd naturally then be stuck
somewhere, wouldn't you.

So we wonder why somebody is in the physical universe
here - as we call the "MEST" universe. And of course on their
typically "only one" basis, the physicist and the chemist
and the astronomers and so forth believe this is the only
universe. They have even started calling galaxies of this
universe island universes or other universes. They're
really fishing for it. Because it doesn't happen to he the
only universe there is by a long shot.

And yet people and things and life forms get in this
universe, they cause effects, cause effects, cause effects
and cause effects and wait for the answer, and cause an
effect and wait for the answer, and cause an- and get no
answer. And they wait and they wait and they wait. And
then you pick them up sooner or later as a deacon in the
church having visions about God coming down to them and
giving them the word that they have to burn the belfry. You
see how this would happen inevitably, hm?

All right. The thetan delivers - now let's look at
duplication as part of the formula - the thetan delivers an
effect against a body, he delivers an effect against a
body. He very easily can do this. He delivered an effect
because he can manufacture the energy which delivers the
effect, you see? This is not intimately connected to
himself however. So he delivers this effect on a body, and
he delivers this effect on the body, and nobody ever really
turns around and says, "Thetan, what are you doing
delivering an effect against me?" It just doesn't happen.

So we have this as an activity which is a one-way flow. So
he delivers an effect against the body and waits for the
effect and gets it. And delivers the effect against the
body and waits for the effect and gets it. And delivers the
effect against the body and waits for the effect, and - it's
a miss. Delivers the effect and waits for the - miss.
"Something must be happening to my power," he says.
"Something is upsetting here, one way or the other." And so
he delivers an effect against the body and - and - he knows he
really can't reach it, you see, but he waits for the effect
anyway. And he finally makes up his mind he doesn't have
any power at all and he decides to be the answer. So he
flips around and becomes the body. And that is the original
evolution of an interiorization and how it comes about. And
it's just like that. Get the idea?

Now, we deliver an effect against the body and deliver an
effect against the body and deliver an effect against the
body and deliver an effect against the body and pretty soon
we just give up waiting for answers. We know its going to
miss every once in a while and so forth. Just give it up -
waiting for answers - and just start waiting. And that's
the black five you process. All he's doing is waiting. He's
not even waiting for an effect anymore. He's just waiting.

Ever seen one of these boys? Ever process anybody like
that? They sit there and they wait. Well, the more alert
case is going to wait for an effect, you see? The more
alert case is going to wait for an effect. He's still sane.

He's still rational. He's still all right. But after a
while he's just waiting. And when he really gets to waiting
good and thoroughly, you got a catatonic schiz. He's in
control of the body but he's waiting for an effect. But
he's just waiting. And waitingness becomes the totality of
existence. And thus we get obsessive survival. And we're
right back to the basics of Dianetics: The Modern Science
of Mental Health.

This waitingness for an answer becomes itself an obsession
on survival. When we say survival in Dianetics, we mean
survival as a form, don't we? It's a qualified type of
survival. But there is no other thing than survival as a
thetan.

Now, you could forget what you know or forget an identity
you may have assigned yourself You could forget that you
have a past. You can do all sorts of things to wipe out an
identity as of yourself But the truth of the matter is that
you couldn't possibly do any other thing than continue
along the track. This would be the only thing you could do
as long as you were in the time continuum of one space. You
would merely continue in the time continuum of this one
space, you see that? There'd be no such thing as your
sudden demise in that space.

Now, we could say, "Well, I could totally forget my entire
past," and therefore we would get more or less the same
thing, wouldn't we? We would get a mock-up of death. Well,
wait a minute. Effect against the body. Effect against the
body. Create an effect against the body. Create an effect
against the body and one day it kicks off. 

The only way you could ever get the second flow, the only
way you could ever get the communication coming back the
other way would be to die as a thetan. But it's impossible,
you can't. But you'd have to make a postulate that you
were. But if you could - and about the best stab you could
make at it would be to simply say, "Okay, I'm dead, I've
forgotten everything there is to know about it," you see.
By this time, when you can die as a thetan, you have waited
for so many answers, for so long, into so much silence,
into so much unknowingness, that you yourself, of course,
can become forgetful and silent and unknowing. And that is
death. Do you see that? The answer would ultimately
become, the only answer you could have would be
forgetfulness, silence and unknowingness. And that would be
death as a thetan. And so we get a continuation as a new
being" or something of the sort, you see? A person has to
completely make up his mind that he's brand-new, that he's
forgotten everything and so on. This is quite a swindle,
when you get down to thinking about it.

Now, how good is this as a theory? That's what we should
explore. Let's summate it by saying a one-way flow to
anything with the idea that it should answer - remember that
one - will eventually stick one in or as that thing. And we
have the formula of entrapment: a one-way flow to any
thing, any space, any object would eventually stick or
entrap one in or as that thing. Now, if this is the case,
it sticks up there like a very, very red, sore thumb. But
all we have to do is furnish some answers to free somebody
entirely. All right? What could we do with this as a
process? Let's take its crudest manifestation. Let's take
its crudest manifestation right now and, just on a little
bit of Group Processing here for a few minutes, let's see
if this isn't right.

Okay. Mock up your stomach saying "yes." Not just once but
many times have your stomach say "yes, yes."

You get your stomach saying "yes"? Well have it say "yes"
many times. 

Still got your stomach saying "yes"? Say "yes" a lot more times.

Okay. Now have it say "no." Have it say "no" many times,
not "no" to anything. Just have it say "no." 

Now have your stomach say "thank you." 

Now have your stomach say "I'll feed you." 

Have it say "I'll feed you." 

Have it say "I'll feed you some more. 

What's happening? No? A somatic? 

Female voice: Not just the stomach. 

That's right. 

Female voice: All over the body. 

Sure.

Now have your stomach say "Thank you, Mama." 

Have your stomach say "Thank you, Mama." 

Getting better? Getting easier? 

Have your stomach say "Thank you, Mama." 

This getting real easy now? Hm? This getting real easy? Okay.

Now have somebody out in front of your face say, "Okay,
I'll process you. Do it again and again and again. 

Do it some more times, "Okay, I'll process you." 

Have it happen some more. Have somebody say "Okay, I'll 
process you."

Somebody say a lot more times, "Okay, I'll process you."

Have somebody say a lot more times, "Okay, I'll process
you." 

Getting easier? 

Somebody say a lot more times, "Okay, I'll process you."

Now, is it getting easier? Hm? Getting easier now? 

Have somebody say a lot more times, "Okay, I'll
process you." 

Do it some more. 

Is it real easy, this, now? Is it getting a lot easier 
now? Hm? Is it getting real easy now? Hm? Getting a lot 
easier now? 

Okay, have the right-hand wall say "hello." 

Have the front of the room say "hello." 

Have the ceiling say "hello." 

Have the back of the room say "hello." 

Have the floor say "hello," your name.

Have the ceiling say "hello," your name. 

Have the right-hand wall say "hello," your name. 

The left-hand wall say "hello," your name. 

Have the floor say "hello," your name. 

Have the front of the room say "hello," your name.

The right-hand wall say "hello," your name. 

The left-hand wall say "hello," your name. 

The ceiling say "hello," your name. 

The back of the room say "hello," your name. 

The floor say "hello," your name. 

The front wall say "hello," your name. 

The right-hand wall say "hello," your name. 

The left-hand wall say "hello," your name, several times. 

The floor say "hello," your name, several times. 

Come on, let's have the floor say "hello," your name, several 
times. 

Have the floor say "hello," your name, several more times. 

Have the floor say "hello," your name, several more times. 

Have the floor say "hello," your first name, several more 
times.

Doing that now? Hm? All right. 

Now, let's have the ceiling say "hello," your first name, 
several more times. 

Several times have the ceiling, come on, let's have the 
ceiling say "hello," your first name, several times. 

Have the ceiling say "hello," your first name, several more 
times. 

And have the front wall say "hello," your name. 

And the back wall say "hello," your name, several times. 

Okay. Let's have the right-hand wall say "hello." 

Your left-hand wall say "hello." 

Have the right-hand wall say "hello." 

The left-hand wall say "hello." 

The right-hand wall say "hello." 

The left-hand wall say "hello." 

The right-hand wall say "hello." 

The left-hand wall say "hello," your first name. 

The right-hand wall say "hello," your first name. 

The left-hand wall say "hello," your first name. 

The front of the room say "hello," your first name. 

Let's go now, come on. The front of the wall say "hello," 
your first name. 

And the floor say "hello," your first name. 

And the ceiling say "hello," your first name. 

Okay, okay.

Did you ever work with any tools, like typewriters or
machines or cars or anything like that? All right, now
let's pick out one that you've greatly associated with and
have it say "Okay." Just many times have it say "Okay."

Is this with ease? Have it say "Okay" many times, very
brilliantly, lots of ARC in it. Okay. Just have it say
"Okay," very cheerfully.

Did you make it do it easily? Hm? Is it getting much easier
for it to do it? Does it tend to change locations? Hm? Saw
it right in the same place?

Female voice: Different parts.

All right, let's have it say "Okay."

Let's do just that now. Don't worry about anything else,
just have this thing say "Okay," wherever it was you picked.

Do that easily? Is it getting easier to do?

Now let's have it say "Okay," more cheerfully, more ARC.

Any engram phrases turn on? Okay. Just have it say "Okay."

Okay, all right.

Now, let's choose either that one or another one. Choose
either that one or another one: A machine, tool, car,
typewriter, sewing machine, drill press, anything you've
been accustomed to running or you have a lot of association
with. Now, you got that now? All right.

Now have it say "Okay." Have it say "Okay" a few more
times. Is it getting real easy? Huh? Is that getting real
easy now? Okay.

Now, what does this thing do? Well, what was this machine
up to, I mean, what was it? You know what you had there,
right? Now have it tell you to do what you consistently
told it to do. Come on let's get this machine, if it was a
car, have it tell you to "drive." "Run." "Roll your wheels."

If it was a typewriter, have it insist that it tap you.
Working out easier now? Getting real easy? Have it tell you
what you consistently told it.

Okay. Getting real easy? Real easy now? Still tough? Hm? Okay.

Let's find the right-hand wall. Find the left-hand wall.

Find the front of the room. 

Find the floor. 

Find your chair. 

Find the ceiling. 

Find the right-hand wall. 

Find the left-hand wall. 

Find the ceiling. 

Find the floor. 

Pick out the realest thing in the room. room? Hin? Got the realest
thing in the room? 

Okay, End of Session.

Now, did we punch home this argument?

Male voice: Yesterday I was real innocent and real innocent
and almost afraid to communicate it.

Female voice: I was -. It's almost satisfactory talking to
machines when they answer the right answer.

They always answer the right answer?

Female voice: At least they communicate, when you mock it up.

Yeah, at least they do.

Male voice: Yeah.

Well, you see a little more about persistence of those
things on the track? Anybody get a feeling of waiting, very
heavily? Anybody get a feeling of kind of being hypnotized?

Female voice: I ended up that way.

Well, you just didn't get it long enough.

All right. Did anybody feel himself exteriorize away from a
something?

Female voice: Whatever that was, it went unstuck.

You felt yourself - some kind of unstick on something?

Female voice: Hm-mm.

Exteriorize from something?

Female voice: Hm-mm.

Male voice: The joker is - on a - on finding the communication
and inspect the specific answer. In other words the answer
that's supposed to come back is the one that you put there
- not the one ...

That's correct. It is expectancy of the answer which makes
the slightest aberration occur, of course. Because it's all
basically consideration.

But now we find man pretty bogged down in mechanics and
very puzzled as to why he's stuck in this universe and
stuck in a body and stuck in this machine and stuck in that
job and trapped here and trapped there. And he's completely
overlooked the fact that he all got there because he was
waiting for answers.

Now, that is a very crude process, the one I was running on
you. I told you so and it is a crude process. It simply
rips up the ridges by the yard, and tears up things all
over the place. But that doesn't mean it isn't an effective
process. I suppose that this process, carried forward long
enough, would simply exteriorize - without any specific
significance in the answers, particularly - but would
exteriorize a fellow from past, his - others around him;
compulsive exteriorizing from them. I mean he's obsessively
interiorized in them.

You've seen the mother who absolutely cannot walk five feet
away from the child, and so forth. Exteriorize from that,
get them out of all the machinery they're mixed up with,
get them out of the - . You would have Earth giving answers,
you see. And you could have this universe giving answers
and so forth. And you - just on that same process, as
rudimentary as it is - you could probably boot a person right
on out of this universe. You could probably give him, then,
where he wished to be very definitely at will. You would
return his own self-determinism to him. So it's not a bad
process, it's merely a crude process. The reason it's crude
is, as I say, it completely wrecks havingness and all
sorts of other minor items.

Okay. Do we see this now with some clarity how it is
waiting for the return of the two-way communication that is
the aberrative thing? Of course, it is the consideration,
basically, that is aberrative, you understand? The
individual makes the consideration. He does this sort of
thing and gets involved in it because he wants to have
complications, problems and so forth. But nevertheless
if - this is the highest echelon mechanic we have, highest
echelon mechanical aspect we have at this time concerning
interiorization, entrapment and mechanics in general. 

Okay?

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